Thanks. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Like, a 18 bbl shooting 55gr might be better suited whereas a 10.5 bbl shooting 77gr might not be as well suited? Personally, I think you are overthinking it. Out at 200 yards, you have a 1/10th of an inch holdover. You will get effective hits out to 300. Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. With a scope height of 1.5 inches, the parabolic arc of the round peaks at 50 yards and returns once more to -1.5 inches at 100 yards. How about thanking this man for putting this out you prick. I have been putting it to good use. For the heavier rounds, I'd zero, as jc says, 1" high at 100 yards. As for why I would want a different zero for my red dot I would just like to be a little more confident when shooting at ranges beyond 100 yards. got to start shooting pistols more , sort of neglecting them a bit . Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. While it is one of those things that needs to be done, no one likes to go zero their rifle. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. Thus giving you 5-8 hold-under until about 225 yards. articles and videos are considered to be suggestions and not recommendations from Springfield Armory. I'll take it. Pros: Everything is a holdover. The AR I have the red dot on is mostly just for home defense and a truck gun. The old school way you would zero your rifle is at 100 yards that way everything is just a holding above the targetpast 100 yards (known as holdover). If you want to be able to hold on someone's face and pull the trigger without needing to think about anything, 50 can facilitate that - the other two can't. 36yd zero, then memorize the remaining holds throughout the effective range of my load (bullet's min velocity for expansion, min energy, etc). I have been using a 25 yard zero for a while but wanted something that was a little less complicated as far as hold overs goat longer ranges. good job! /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/IdCard.ea0ac1df4e6491a16d39_.css.map*/._2JU2WQDzn5pAlpxqChbxr7{height:16px;margin-right:8px;width:16px}._3E45je-29yDjfFqFcLCXyH{margin-top:16px}._13YtS_rCnVZG1ns2xaCalg{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._1m5fPZN4q3vKVg9SgU43u2{margin-top:12px}._17A-IdW3j1_fI_pN-8tMV-{display:inline-block;margin-bottom:8px;margin-right:5px}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY{border-radius:20px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;letter-spacing:0;line-height:16px;padding:3px 10px;text-transform:none}._5MIPBF8A9vXwwXFumpGqY:focus{outline:unset} You can click here to access the PDF. Accuracy Profile: Ballistic Advantage 16 Inch SPR. The 10 yard RDS zero does require one special skill - the ability to shoot 3 rounds inside a 2 inch circle at 10 yards. . So this zero drops quickly past 300 yards. GET OUT AND SHOOT! October 24, 2018 in General AR15 Discussion. .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} Pros: Somewhat flat shooting.l according to the ballistic calculator. Just align your optic on the black dot and bore sight on the gray dot. I do them at 75 yards but then I don't shoot enough to speak much on this . This makes it easy to achieve the POA/POI relationship necessary to achieve the rough 50/200 yard zero at 10 yards. 1 moa = 1 at 100 yards so at 25 yards 4 moa is only 1. Zeroing is best conducted by following these steps: Bore sighting Rough Adjustment Shoot a Group Fine Adjustment Optimal Zero The only reason I would like to have less complicated hold over math is for when I'm out shooting for practice and up in the mountains roaming around. Horse-shoes & handgrenades For a dot, same deal, you can zero at dot at 10 yards, but it will be way off, even at 25 yards. Sight in at fifty yards so that most of the group (5 -10 shots) falls in the lower half of the dot. Just a fraction of an inch, but I believe 10 yards strikes a useful balance. How many grains for the projectile and what ballistic coefficient, or do you just want those the same? The image shown is not to scale. Thanks for the cheatI almost feel bad letting you do the work, but I have an SBR that needs zeroing and a sunny afternoon! Does that back into a 36 yard zero? So if you want to convert them at 200 yards and you have -4.22 MOA like on the 25 yard zero, will be roughly an 8.83 hold under. Temp was in low 40s, but windchill made it much colder. 1 MOA= roughly 1 at 100 yards (2 at 200 yards.) This article will be very simple with lots of pictures. ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} Even the text is real thin, hard to read. Nice But why are all the charts grayed out? But if the range of your target could be anywhere out to 300 yards, your best choice among those shown is the 36 yard zero. What is the POI at 100 yards with a 50/200 zero? It is a clean design that is easy to see even at 200 yards with a 20x scope. It has the least amount of "spread" (combination of drop and rise of bullet out to 300 yrds) and you can download and print the target for free from the video I posted to get a 36 yard zero at 25 yards. Editors Note: Please be sure to check out The Armory Life Forum, where you can comment about our daily articles, as well as just talk guns and gear. Rifle Specs: M6A2 PSD 8.5 in bbl. To print the target, click the last link and be sure to follow the instructions on printing. Be sure to print at actual size. Easy. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.3b33fc17a17cec1345d4_.css.map*/You need to do the maths for your barrel and your ammos; plug your observed fps with your load into a ballistic program with various zero yardages and you should be able to find that perfect zero distance. 50 yards is 1/2 inch high, 150 yards 1.5 high. This includes 10.3 and 14.5 using 55g IMI and 77g Mk262 and BH equivalents. If you are planning on shooting the majority of time within 125 yards I dont see a benefit of a 36/300 zero and actually see some decent minuses for it. For squirrels and rabbits under the conditions we hunt this works out well. It drops the least across 300 yards (8.57"). Past 200 it falls fast. These should also help those using different rifle setups (barrel length) and/or heavier grain bullets get close. This is a case for Mr. MOA. However there are many who know a lot more than me. Ill leave you with this tip: if you have astigmatism like I do and your red dot looks wonky, flip up the small rear aperture it will help focus the dot for a better defined aiming point. One shows it compared to a 100 yard zero and the other shows it compared to different rounds. Scope, X at 25 yards. For over a year I was thinking about changing my zero from 25 yards to 36 yards. My advice is to get a ballistic calculator and put in your specific data because there are all sorts of things that will affect the results. If I need to push out a bit farther, I can just hold level with the shoulder line or top of the target for 350 and 400 yards, respectively. Even though I dont recommend the 25 yard zero, Im starting here because it is suggested so often, but is also often misrepresented as a 25/300 yard zero. I cant tell you which zero distance is the best one; thats really going to be up to you, your skill level and the set-up of your rifle. Get our new posts sent right to your email! C. Jerking the Trigger posted up a quick target that allows us city-slickers to use available resources to our advantage. Now, the arguments that Ive read on each of these techniques could put a good, old fashioned Ford vs. Chevy debate to shame. Easier softer ways avail us nothing. That brings me to these two options, which Id like to talk about together because theyre pretty similar and do well to exploit the advantages of a practical carbine. Sometimes it may do better, sometimes worse. With rifles like the AR15and the typical ranges of the intermediate cartridge(normally within 300 yards), you can manipulate the bullet trajectory. Therefore, to hit the center of the target at 100 yards, or any distance for that matter, the rifle has to have a small upward angle. Also, a - means hold under and a + means to hold over. Jan 15, 2021 Darkangel1846 said: Well it is supposed to keep your near zero out to 300 yards. The Marine Corps does not have a 36 yard zero. Broken clouds with me laying prone on damp to muddy ground. I found 25 meter targets but I guess no one ever did the 25 yard for 100 meter zero. Now, since we're converting from a 100 -yard zero trajectory to a 200-yard zero trajectory, we begin by looking at how much we must adjust to rezero to the new The reason for this is that at distance your hold over won't be as much and . Especially with a 7.5 Just about any self defense situation is gonna be well within that range anyway. If you are hunting in the woods your shooting range should not extend beyond 200 or 300 yards. All rights reserved. Sidearm Sunday: Is .30 Super Carry Worth it? To understand this, let's look at a trajectory that is considered "flat." Chances are youll be very close, if not dead on. Im guessing this is all highly dependent on the velocities youre getting in your particular rifle? 300 yards is great for longer barrels. . Just remember, that is a rough estimate based off of the velocities the ballistics app gave me. Started using a 36 meter zero as a recruit in 1997. Make the charts mil or moa based and redo your anslysis. - AR15.COM Precision Rifles Marksmanship CMMG - New 9mm Dissent now available Speed Racer, Airforce Vet, and President of TNVC | Ep 025 w/ Victor DiCosola 36 Yard Zero for .556? Kurtis Eugene Warner (born June 22, 1971) is an American former football quarterback who played in the National Football League (NFL) for 12 seasons, primarily with the St. Louis Rams and Arizona Cardinals. This provides a trajectory with a maximum ordinate during flight of just over 4.5" above the line of sight at around 200 yards. The bottom dot on the 0:0 axis is where the bullet would hit if you were aiming at a target 25 yards away with a 36yd zero which is approximately -.72 below your point of aim. Crappy weather, windy day, but what the heck. 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Of course, it is best to refine your zero at distances greater than 10 yards. Zeroing (also called sighting-in) is the process of adjusting your rifle's sighting apparatus (iron sights, electronic optic or riflescope) until its point-of-aim (POA) is calibrated to the bullets' point-of-impact (POI). The 36 yard zero is nothing new. It is a very fast way to zero which is very convenient for me since many carbines are in a constant state of flux as I try various items for review. I prefer to zero at 36 yards, for the reasons provided in the video above. Of course, it is best to refine your zero at distances greater than 10 yards. Whichever distance you do zero at, I recommend shooting out to as far as possible so that you know what you, your rifle and your ammunition are capable of doing. But this should be a very close estimation. Could you run a 100 yard zero through your ballistic program and publish the drop? I used the Litz test. I should also note that this is somewhat dependent on the height of your optic. Gets a little sketch with slow bullets. At 25 yards, groups should be .3 inches (less than or just over ") high w/ rear sight set on "3". Its within 2 inches of point of aim all the way from 10 yards out to 200 yards. Pros: Your largest hold under is about 1.5 at 125 yards which in my book is point and shoot. By 200 yards you're already needing to compensate for bullet drop. Posted February 16, 2015 in Optics, Rifles by Nathan S with 22 CommentsTags: City Shooting, JTT, Making Things Easy, targets. It is useful for many. and opinions expressed on this website are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the 36 Yard Zero for .556? ._1x9diBHPBP-hL1JiwUwJ5J{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:#ff585b;padding-left:3px;padding-right:24px}._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4{height:16px;padding-right:4px;vertical-align:top}.icon._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5{height:20px;vertical-align:middle;padding-right:8px}.QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{height:18px;padding-right:8px;vertical-align:top}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1LLqoNXrOsaIkMtOuTBmO5,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._2B0OHMLKb9TXNdd9g5Ere-,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 ._1xKxnscCn2PjBiXhorZef4,._3w_KK8BUvCMkCPWZVsZQn0 .QB2Yrr8uihZVRhvwrKuMS{fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)} Keep in mind that, at 100 yards, your point of impact will be above the black dot if your point of aim is the black dot. Ditch the 223 precision ar for a bolt gun? It is a simple method but there are some caveats you will want to keep in mind. 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Screenshot_20200214-094614_Strelok Pro.jpg. Pros: Very flat shooting. Cons: None. In the video "ex-navy seal" Shawn Ryan, talks about the normal zeros.25,50,100, but he also speaks of an unusual one of 36 yards. Go with whatever you want and simply memorize / write down til you have memorized 3-4-5 other distances where you'd place your dot (Point of Aim / PoA). I sight mine at 10 yards for both sport shooting and SD. they have figured out a target you can zero on at 10 yards which will give you a 50/200 yard zero for your rifle at range. When zeroed at 25 yards the round will also be zeroed at 300 yards. Precision Rifles Marksmanship Win a FREE Membership! 36 Yard Zero for .556? If you want to be sure, you will have to put your numbers into a ballistic calculator or give it a try. The 10-yard zero will suffer the least in the long run, falling to ~3.38 at 75 yards and to ~6.15 below point-of-aim at 100 yards. The 12-yard zero is represented by the red arc. Grabbed it and went out today to sight it in at 36 yards. This should put most of a group in the top half of a one inch dot at twenty-five yards. Pull a new AR out of the case, peer through some sights, and one of the first questions will invariably be What distance should I zero this stuff at? I could easily regale you with ballistic charts and simply say that at x distance youll be y inches high and thats why its better than z, but that would be a little disingenuous. More posts from r/ar15 272K subscribers RefrigeratorGold8291 6 days ago Treated myself after getting my Green Card, it ain't much but it's mine and I love it! certified instructor prior to handling any firearm and be sure to read your owners manual. Look up Max Point Blank Range, or MPBR. In the military, we were told to hold low up to 250 meters and then hold dead on for 300 meters. I have an AR-10 and a Bolt action, that need to be zeroed. On the flip side, if you are guarding some tower and the terrain is very open and far, 25 or 36 might be the way to go. And a rough estimate of velocity for either a 10.5 or 11.5 barrel. Your largest holds are 4ish inches under at 175 yards and 3ish inches over at 300 yards. You should always check your zero at the actual zero distance when possible but this will get you close. Live The Armory Life. The 10 yard red dot zero is pretty simple, but it does require the shooter to be able to shoot 3 shots that all touch each other or almost touch each other at 10 yards. So, Im shooting an ar pistol, 7.5 barrel. The gray dot is 1.9 below your point of aim (POA) and represents your point of impact (POI). Sorry, an error occurred and we could not sign you up. To move 1 with a 1/2 MOA click at 10 yards, you will need 20 clicks and so on. The trajectory of a 55gr .243 round at 4000 odd fps is very different to a 100gr at 3000 fps. 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However, many optics will allow you to click up or down in 1/2 moa increments, so if your using a variable just adjust up or down on the turret to match the come up. Other Calibers may be used for different purposes so I would zero them according to the primary purpose. The gray dot is 1.9 below your point of aim (POA) and represents your point of impact (POI). The whole debate is pretty stupid. Other Calibers may be used for differentpurposes so I would zero them according to the primary purpose. I've been at 36yd for about a year in the AR and AK, both are 5.56. Repeated trips walking up and down the range and hopefully you are at least on paper for your first group Well, Frank Proctor, from Way of the Gun, and Jerking the Trigger have come up with a great target. Does everyone need a $500-$750 red dot sight? All Rights Reserved. Then go out and check it. So many abbreviations on this sight it gets confusing on some stuff. /r/ar15 is here for your favorite black gun links, build pics, questions and other tactical or practical information. Product prices mentioned in articles and videos are current as of the date of publication. Note: a 200 yard zero and a 50 yard zero are practically the same for these calibers. Then POI will be slightly lower at 5 yards, and slightly higher at 15 due to parallax between bore axis and C/L of optic. FMJ bullet at about 3,000 fps in my examples. The rifle zeroed at 50 yards shot a little flatter with a max ordinate of just a few inches above the line of sight. Second is the Marine Corps' recommended 36/300 yard BZO. 36 is a good combat zero (where just hitting center mass is the goal) but definitely not the best for a precision/long range setup. A 36 yard zero will be on at 36 yards, and slightly low inside of that due to sight offset. But the 36 yard zero is flatter out to 300. Cons: 300 yards is a 9-inch hold over and 400 yards is a 27-inch holdover. The same concept applies to Marines. 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