Refer to the screenshot below for an example. Its useful for balancing when playing against someone with higher ping than you. you can give or remove admin privileges without Admin status. First off, I don't think any of us want flash back, you can go ahead and try it here - http://www.haxball.com/flash/ you will quickly realize how bad it actually was. Its about the heavy movement, not the ping or latency or anything else like that. On FLASH as you see, he chooses to cover the SOUTH side and misses the ball, he doesn't recover with his heavy movement pulling him away from jasko. https://i.ibb.co/PCm3qp6/448ef7c93a19fdcaa19bd8f532dfdca2.png. By clicking Sign up for GitHub, you agree to our terms of service and Yes, players can abuse it. Basically, delete the Flash HaxBall and "recreate" another HTML5 HaxBall this time without extrapolation and same physics of the Flash HaxBall, and time will come when people get it and will prefer the new HTML5 HaxBall. Another big issue would be the fake kick. THE PHYSICS ARE SO BAD FOR GAMEPLAY RIGHT NOW, THAT EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO SUCCEED THE MOST ON IT, WANT IT CHANGED BACK! Qualities like anticipation and reading the game are not an advantage when people can use extrapolation to get perfect anticipation and reading, using no /thinking/game sense of their own. This is where in HTML he wouldn't be punished for his mistake. I don't want to keep repeating myself. https://github.com/haxball/haxball-issues/issues/820. Haxball Cheats and Haxball is an extremely fun game to play. Once upon a time, Haxball was the game in which the most creative and talented players would win, but now, it's all about the quality of handling huge extrapolation and doing the "fake x" feint bug. Anyways, regarding the fake kick, I don't agree at all with you. After that, you updated something and almost all players started to have input delay including me, it wasn't even the same physics, I can remember it really well. But we're having huge problem at the moment if not since extrapolation has been added. which is completely understood since you own nothing to anyone. most of them already retired. privacy statement. /kick_ratelimit <min> <rate> <burst> It works with all rooms hosted on the HTML5 game! Edit: Look up training videos on YouTube. Where can I find you? If you have played against players using extrapolation you have probably handicapped yourself. I would like you to look at this post: https://fm-haxball.co.uk/community/viewtopic.php?p=91629#p91629, Hi @basro, In my opinion the game works well, I hope you don't remove the extrapolation, since very few people will like it. It can be used to counteract the effects of input delay but at the cost of extra warping in the game prediction. Watch some good players and see how they position themselves. yoksa ok kfr yersiniz. Ambos s podem ter duas letras/nmeros. It's same for both big and Real Soccer. In my opinion, the game is slowly dying but that's normal, who wanna play "flash" game in 2020, the hype is over. The problem is that its not fun playing with a shaky game. For Firefox, a user must have Add-ons . I basically noticed it's much harder to create something in attack, so with certain positioning you can neutralize even the best players in the game, but I don't want to play like this, no one does, I could be greedy and want it to stay this way, since I found a way to "abuse" it, but it's not enjoyable. We are disclosing this in accordance with the Federal Trade Commission's 16 CFR, Part 255: "Guides Concerning the Use of Endorsements and Testimonials in Advertising" and also in accordance to amazon associates programme operating agreement. Be aware that this is still a beta function! If you want to view or change your avatar without entering a room or opening the console, type in the command bar. Sign in 6,7,8,9 are the default keys but these can easily be changed at the top of the script. We all just want to have the fun even it's dead game, but still. This is a very SIMPLE solution, that will fix TWO SERIOUS issues that exist - extrapolation + gameplay quality. You'll get a desktop notification when you are moved into a team. : 7, 3 But it is cancerous as fuck these days if not already over 2 years. GitHub Open on Apr 13, 2020 9999OldSchool commented on Apr 13, 2020 Remove extrapolation: I already tried this, it was a shit-fest, I wont try it again. But the problem is that a lot of players will complain, it's a tricky situation though. I will proceed to continue reading this issue (I always read all issues), but I will probably not reply here again unless there's something new for me to say. It can only ask the client "what extrapolation are you using?" So basro, plz read our comments and at least try to change something. As far as I'm aware, this is not against any TOS however, I do not accept responsibility for any damage caused by this script. Re: How much extrapolation are you playing on. You don't realize you are asking for things that are quite literally impossible to implement in a way that isn't trivial to bypass. Stay tuned for future updates. Extrapolation as a term is "the action of estimating or concluding something by assuming that existing trends will continue or a current method will remain applicable". No hard feelings. I guess I played this game long enough to have a valid view on the game, so I'll share my view, as well. HaxApp. If you go above that spot the game is constantly stuttering as the rendering refreshes and "corrects" the extrapolated predictions. If you liked making the game, then you should listen people playing your game and compare thoughts = more money = more updates. Game will check your current extrapolation, and the one you have sent to server. In Haxball, there is the /extrapolation command, where you set the milliseconds in the future that you want your browser to predict the movements on the field. C, A forum for the hungry members of the Haxball community. IDK if you know this basro, but Futsal has practically taken over this game as the most popular game mode now for serious players. Then all players complained about that, and basro was afraid of it (like Feed Me admins who can't ban these players),, so he "deleted" the update again. I think you can easily predict x fakes if you know when they are going to use them, I used 200 extrapolation many months ago and I have no input lag currently. I still don't agree that it gives you an advantage, but if I could I would tell myself in the past not to implement it just to avoid this current situation. My hands are tied by reality. Yes, only change the physics to match Flash. people only come to this game for official games. It has nothing to do with me agreeing or disagreeing with it being bad for the game. Changes the colors of a team. This is a good example of the FLASH Heavier Movement (Input Delay) physics. Would love some little tips. regards. Is this an issue of you not believing us about the Physics being different? , - More ping - > having the ball let the owner trust his gameplay whereas opponents trusts their eyes -> easier juke, So maybe (and probably) the gameplay was more enjoyable, but this is harshly due to the ping more than the physic It is impossible for it to affect how other players see the results of your input. As a result, for logical amounts of extrapolation (~20-60ms), you can feel the reduction of input lag as you see your player a few milliseconds in the future therefore your reaction synchronizes with the movements on the field. So you could load it quickly next time. Something has to be done about it. /handicap 200 - To add lag (ping) to yourself and reduce it to other players. Learn positioning and get a feel for the flow of the game before you try to do wall moves or anything fancy. iip iip gelmeyin oyuna. "/avatar " looks like a scribbled 96. The main reason would be the major advantage that extrapolation gives. Basically, the ball will always be ejected in the direction formed by the center of your player and the point at which you're touching the ball. No es una trampa, ni tampoco es un hack, ni un crack, ni un cheat. Only admins can use this command. Have a question about this project? Comes together with the text expansion macro. In addition to the Search feature provided by the All-in-one Tool, this functionality comes very handy when you only are interested in a few rooms, and some of these are distant from your geographical position or not close to each other. It is a very competitive game that has a lot of replay value. Primero hay que asegurarse que est cerrado el HaxBall de cualquier navegador de Internet. Hi, I'd like to make this discussion to hopefully gather some feedback and present it to basro, so that hopefully we see further improvements in the game, since I feel like a lot of people have similar problem to my own and it makes me not want to play this game anymore. This game would have had a lot, lot potential if you were listening to us. Clears the password of the room. Even Abduction pressed x, but didn't work because of extrapolation, obviously. Add input lag: Seriously? I think if you fixed the physics to match Flash, extrapolation wouldn't even be a problem anymore, only something legitimate laggers would use, instead of people looking for advantages! Amazon and the Amazon logo are trademarks of Amazon.com, Inc. or its affiliates. Type in the search term "spacebounce+soccer" and you'll have it! They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. minis the minimum number of logic-frames between two kicks. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Two new buttons have been added to the Room list view: Add Room and Show Rooms. Already on GitHub? Room Search (original idea by Raamyy): quickly filter rooms by their room names (or partial room names) using the search bar above the room list. | EXTRAPOLATION 140 cis-haxball.com : 3 NicK hat- TeamSpeak 3: haxball.ts3.ru EXTRAPOLATION 140 : -/- : : cis-haxball Filp IIImusic : For instance, you could save links to private rooms, different private keys for different rooms, a Discord invite someone linked in chat, or some longer chat commands you dont want to create a shortcut for (like team colors). 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