Im a horrible girlfriend. I dont like to go out during the dayits too crowded. So in New York we have zillions of different kinds of people, many of them hate each other, but violence based on that hatred is really uncommon here. More than it works in any other place. So just think, if there were, say, only 10 percent of the hotels that exist now, there would be all these apartments for people who live in New York, as opposed to people visiting New York. Obviously, I was opposed to this, and I still am. I mean, knowing James Joyce . I like that Oscar Wilde. The arrival of my youngest brother had plunged us into a kind of poverty wed never known. I did that for a couple of years. [5] She is known for her sardonic social commentary on American life as filtered through her New York City sensibilities and her association with many prominent figures of the . I suppose that my work is always mourning something, the loss of a paradisenot the thing that comes after you die, but the thing that you had before. And thats why Frans first book, Metropolitan Life, has become a smash hit. I cant imagine what I could have done with it. The novel is reputedly about rich people who want to be artists, and artists who want to be rich people. One of the movies was The Thing with Two Heads, starring Ray Milland and Rosie Grier. A.I.P. I remember I got $500 for it. Which, in my opinion, was: What is culture without gay people? Its very disconcerting to be in the basement of a night club at ten oclock in the morning reading poetry on a stage with a spotlight on you and no one there. Fran Lebowitz is a New York humorist who worked as a columnist for Andy Warhol's Interview before publishing her first collection of comic essays, Metropolitan Life, in 1978. They told you what to write. She has been a resident of Manhattan, New York since 1970. June 15, 2021 6:30 AM PT. But at a certain point, you hit your limit, and thats it. And its also not a modern idea; dictators are an old-fashioned idea. Lebowitz: Id like to have a talk show with no guests. Im a great relative. I would say maybe 74, 75. I once read that deer are in the rodent family, and I still believe this. I would stand in front of the class and report on a book I had made up. I was at that time living on the floor of a friends room at Boston University, and I knew that if I didnt smoke that ounce of marijuana, someone else would. And just think how fantastic New York would be. I would personally just like to vet each person. I was a big fan of Sky King. 5. An interview with the late, great actor, comedian, and cannabis fan Richard Belzer (1944-2023). I met Marc in . That was one. Nowadays if I were to be homesick it would be for Vermont, which is strange. And I participated a lot in market research. Fran Lebowitz is an American author who may be recognized for her role as Judge Janice Goldberg on Law & Order. But because I was young, I had this long hair, and people used to try to tip me with joints. Holding a grudge is the modern equivalent of having standards. I believe Im a great friend. And you didnt have to think about money every second. By Susan Devaney. I have to take all the junk off the desk and wash the desk. Two rare items of Andy Warhol: 1) Pop goes art - Institut fr Popkultur - 1990 - Box - Contains several items: - Glossy folder of loose-leaf art-paper reproductions. I went to bed earlier than anyone in the world. And people are constantly telling me, whether they are friends who feel sorry for me, because I cant find a place to live, or real estate agents, You cant afford an apartment the size you need with this many books. President Biden repeatedly framed his campaign and his administration as defending "the rule of law" after what he and others portrayed as the lawless reign of President Trump . An opinion piece by the one and only Debbie "Blondie" Harry, right in time for Valentine's Day! Lebowitz: Ive gotten some marriage proposals, but I dont think they were serious. At twenty-one, she began a column, I Cover the Waterfront, for Andy WarholsInterviewmagazine, before moving toMademoiselle. And it allowed people who would be fifth-rate artists to come to the front of the line. And with AIDS, a whole generation of gay men died practically all at once, within a couple of years. Lebowitz: Actually my main occupation in bed was book reports. I used to steal hers. Then she published two books of essays Metropolitan Life and Social Studies - both wonderful. Id rather have people shooting up in my apartment; at least I dont have to smell it. Lebowitz: I had a parakeet when I was four called Polka Dotty, and I killed Polka Dotty by eating its food. Did you find subject matter in your taxi rides? For two reasons: First of all, I stopped taking drugs when I was 19, and who wants to drive a cab around New York with drugs in their car? I did every single one like that. You might want this, but I will do that. CLEMENTE: I think in your life youve said no more than yes. That never used to happen. Things that people will say to me, mostly, is that you shouldnt have all these books. Theres too much distance. Ive never seen the Kardashians; Im not sure who they are. Im not afraid to be on TV. I wish it was still on, except now I guess it would be too modern. Theres a huge gap in what people know, and theres no context for it anymore. Did you write it at the last minute? OK, come on. I dont remember who published it. CLEMENTE: And the illustrations were by Marc Balet? There are some great writers who are great talkers, but there are more great writers who are not great talkers. I Cover The Waterfront. And thats the reason why a person of a certain age wakes up early morning with a slight sense of anxiety. I said, "Toni, the restaurant's five blocks away.". But in modern America - where, despite ostensible separation of church and state, the only thing that trumps the cross in terms of influence is the dollar sign - its possibly even worse. Fran Lebowitz is an American author and a public speaker. High Times: Tell me about your career as a poet. Black cigarettes, every horrible adolescent smoking gesture imaginable. By Chuck Crisfulli. The one I wrote myself was called House of Leather. China is not a great idea: capitalism and a dictator. Lebowitz: I dont think I was a poet for even an entire year. I wasnt glamorous and rebellious. I would stand at the border and say, Youre coming here to live, really? High Times: How far did you get in school? I saw a group-therapy movieand the whole thing took place in redwood hot tubs with people screaming their problems at each other. Fran Lebowitz, the writer, cultural critic, and professional raconteur, spoke with me over the phone via landline, as she famously doesn't own a cell phone or computer. Copyright 2023 Interview Magazine. Okay? In clips of them talking on stage, Lebowitz looks uncharacteristically awestruck. . One day they would show you how to plant tomatoes, the next day theyd show how to raise chickens, the day after that how to can peas. Lebowitz: I went through a period of watching $20,000 Pyramid, but it was too frustrating because every day I won $20,000 and I have no money. Because if people dont hold grudges, it means they just dont care what people do. This is another thing most people don't know about Toni: though she was incredibly hardworking, she was physically incredibly lazy. CLEMENTE: How do you keep ten thousand books in order, do you have a personal librarian? Did Lucy come out of a feeling that you needed to put your arrival to America in its place somehowto examine it, or to leave it behind? My first action on coming to New York was walking into Grove Press, plunking down the manuscript and demanding they publish it. I answered Steve Pauls telephone and was a general schlepper and errand girl for him, and I drove for him. Ill take you to 21 if you type for me. Ive typed some of my columns. FRANCESCO CLEMENTE: After a certain age, in the early hours of the morning, the pressure drops, which is the reason why. He was stuck, and he asked me to come help. Photograph by Christopher Macsurak. Paper, you can feel it. My mother and father thought that because I didnt go to college Id probably end up working in the five-and-ten. Like, this is the smart one, this is the pretty one. I did once smoke an ounce of marijuana in one day and ended up in the emergency ward at Mass. CLEMENTE: One of my favorite things that you ever published was something that came out at the height of the AIDS epidemic, when the amount of nonsensical, prejudiced, ridiculous things being said was really extraordinary, and you came up with a few paragraphs that really nailed the situation. Now she is winning new . The writer and raconteur embodied the hip, downtown Manhattan of the 70s. Fran Lebowitz contains multitudes: author (with a decades-old writer's block), journalist (Vanity Fair and Interview, et al. CLEMENTE: Did you talk with the clients of your cab? Children played marbles on it. Go to California. In placing them in magazines she was merely pursuing her policy of selling a piece of writing as many times as possible. I would have liked to have met Nabokov. I remember she wore her hair in a French roll, and she wore what they called a hobble skirt. This is why you have so much idiotic behavior among male writers. This has never occurred. In time, she put herself on another path. It was originally built as a sailors rooming house, because its very close to the river. This is America, what is the culture? I never had any skilled jobs because I never had any skills. To me, it would be even a slower way to write. But then I found out it was fraud or something and I could go to jail, so I sent the money back and wrote to the people who sent it to me. And you would have cash at the end of the day. On the way he started to drive into a tunnel, and I decided they might be going into a tunnel but I wasnt, so I tried to jump out of the car. And I always start writing very late at night. And I was once ejected from the Whitney Museum for making comments during a film about baking. The dancers sit there waiting for him to come up with something. LEBOWITZ: When I move, I do. I just talked it while a speed freak typed it. You can probably tell from my writing that Im obsessed with notions of justice and injusticethose things that are wrong that can never be made right. Which is why I remember things. Especially because I was the only girl. The first time I ever came to New York by myself, I snuck to New York on a bus and bought a pair of bongo drums with all the money Id saved my whole life, which was $12. Just one day the headmaster woke up and thought. FRAN LEBOWITZ. Fortunately they didnt, so its not around to haunt me. "One of the reasons people our age came to New York, if you were gay, was because you . In the early 1970s, Andy Warhol hired Lebowitz as a columnist for his magazine Interview, where she wrote a column, I Cover The Waterfront. Im happy none of it was ever published. In "Public Speaking," the initial documentary, Ms. Lebowitz brilliantly notes that one of the great tragedies of the AIDS crisis was that the city lost not only a generation of artists and. Tolerance is really a better thing than understanding. This must be about 15 years ago. Especially really horrible ones. Florinda Donner and Carlos Castenada were both accused of fabricating their encounters with Indigenous healers. In person and on the page, Kincaids is a literary voice. Even ones that preceded me. press handouts. But what would also be impossible, would be to write on one of those word processors. The first thing I did was a movie review column, just bad movies, called Best of the Worst. There used to be a company called AIP, American International Picturesthey mostly made movies for drive-ins; some of them would come to Times Square. It didnt rhyme. I mean, that is why we had that little war with England. LEBOWITZ: I drank my lifetime supply of alcohol and I took my lifetime supply of drugs between the ages of 15 and 19. I also did some subcontract work for porn writers. This is why I have problems with books, because you cannot do that the night before. Im sorry, were full up. So Scully put on something called Village Varieties, and he hired all these teenaged artists-to-be, and it opened at ten in the morning and closed at six. I like lots of writers, but now I cant think of them. High Times: Do you ever think you cant do it? I didnt have any adventures. Because if people dont hold grudges, it means they just dont care what people do.FRAN LEBOWITZ, LEBOWITZ: It was for The New York Times. Everybody else was. People always say pop culture. As if we have some high culture to distinguish it from. I was a chauffeur for Johnny and Edgar Winter. To celebrate, we're republishing Glenn O'Brien's interview with the living legend from the August, 1978 print edition of High Times. LEBOWITZ: I dont cook. It's such a ridiculous idea. I write with a pen. Your email address will not be published. Karl Lagerfeld did this, I dont know what youd call it, this project, where he and his publishing company made this crate. When asked about the long delay in its delivery to her publisher, she explained that she only works on it on the side. It could be clean and less dangerous, and not horrible, not under a tidal wave of tourists. Fran Lebowitz: "A dumb woman is the preferred woman in the USA" The essayist and speaker on her Manhattan lockdown, 9/11 and disappointing Americans - from Andy Warhol to Joe Biden. Bloomberg was always bragging how many hotels were being builtI remember seeing him on the news, saying, And this is the nine millionth hotel in Queens. Queens! by Anonymous: reply 136: January 15, 2021 3:23 AM: I adore her. America is a great idea, so thats why its a great country. I was simply sent away to support them. He was the one that was supposed to be president. "Pretend it's a citywhere there are other people ," she pleads. Fran Lebowitz kicks off her career working for a small magazine, "Changes" at the age of 21 where she sold advertising space, then wrote book and movie reviews and was hired as a columnist for "Interview" by Andy Warhol where she wrote a column called "I Cover the Waterfront." It was a very terrifying experience because when I started to flip out having smoked this much pot I was in a room with people who had also smoked this much pot and no one would help me out. She rented a theater and sat on stage and called people up and didnt tell them. But this idea that people cannot kill each other? Every single one. LEBOWITZ: Money. Fran Lebowitz has realised George Costanza is, in fact, an idiot. So forcing people into a situation where theyre supposed to adore each other is probably bad. CLEMENTE: But dont you love being in someone elses apartment, possibly someone you dont know well or know at all? What are those computer letters made of anyway? Lebowitz was born in 1950 in Morristown, New Jersey, the daughter of furniture store proprietors. Fran is a renowned humorist and essayist. Not so much to put anything in its place as to give an account of what had happened to me. These were oral book reports. They had a style sheet that was kind of the opposite of the New York Times. Im the worlds greatest daughter. It was really a passion with me. It was the only thing I wanted to be except for a brief flirtation with wanting to be a cellist. High Times: When you were writing The Best of the Worst what was the best bad movie you ever saw? I really wanted someone to save me. At the beginning, every day, you asked me a hundred questions about myself. And sometimes I went on at ten oclock in the morning and read to the guy sweeping up from the night before. I also have the Family Feud home game, but I cant figure out how to play it. The essays were published inMetropolitan Life(1978) andSocial Studies(1981). I believe Im a great friend. A childrens book, Annie, Gwen, Lilly, Pam and Tulip, came out in 1986. This is not a middle-aged curmudgeonly attitude; I didnt like people that age even when I was that age. Lebowitz: Every single time Ive ever written I thought I couldnt do it. But for I Cover the Waterfront, ordinarily I would go out to dinner with Marc the night beforeand when I say dinner, I mean some hamburger place or somethingand I would think of ideas, and then I would go home. Frances Ann Lebowitz ( / libwts /; [1] born October 27, 1950) is an American author, [2] public speaker, [3] [4] and occasional actor. . When I got to the hospital they did not believe that I had smoked marijuana, I was so smashed. The terrace that starts at the back door ends in a border of stones; the lawn, planted with thousands of daffodils, slopes down to a thickly shaded creek. Fran Lebowitz. She went from the New School in Manhattan to Franconia College in New Hampshire, and worked at Magnum Photos and at the teen magazine Ingenue. There was nothing televisiony or psychological about it. More at IMDbPro Contact info Agent info Resume Born October 27, 1950 Add to list Nominated for 1 Primetime Emmy 1 win & 3 nominations total I loved dressing up and going out. Lebowitz will appear on stage for four performances only . I would have gotten a scholarship. BUT.she has plenty to say and has absolutely no problem with verbal expression and is brutally honest. I might have gone to the University of the West Indies. He writes for the New Yorker. CLEMENTE: So everything that you write is written by hand? Exec Producer, Star, "Pretend It's a City" Having previously starred in and produced a documentary with pal Martin Scorsese (HBO's "Public Speaking"), Lebowitz knew what type of . There are certain relationships I think Im great at: Im the worlds greatest daughter. But all the rest of them were, including Jeb Bush. Its the thing that Im most criticized for. I started being a poet when I lived in Poughkeepsie, and I wrote a book of poetry called Poughkeepsie Blood. Pretend It's a City. Full-time Im watching daytime TV., The following interview took place one afternoon in an apartment overlooking the East River. I started writing for Interview in 1971 or 72, and eventually some of my columns became Metropolitan Life. I would wake up and be so excited because I could smoke. Bei/Shutterstock. When I got to the hospital I was restrained. People ask me, Arent you interested in what theyre thinking? 1. Thats good for at least an hour of not writing. LEBOWITZ: I only know how many there are because for the last several years Ive moved every five minutes, so theyre counted. And I feel this way more and more about the Republican candidates, certainly. Me and, like, five of what I then thought of as old menthey were probably 40smoking cigars, watching these movies. It's a drug. I think Brigid Polk did that once. Directed by Martin Scorsese, it follows Lebowitz and Scorsese as they prowl New York City streets, museums and members clubs for conversations about the city. Also a TV show that was on Sunday morning for four hours: I cant remember the name of it, but Sonny Fox was the emcee. Author Fran Lebowitz was a guest on HBO's Real Time with Bill Maher Friday night and got herself in hot water when she spoke about President Trump. I couldnt imagine knowing someone who was that funny. And people sent in money. I wait until the editor says, Unless its in tomorrow morning at ten oclock we cant run it. Then I stay up all night and do it. When it was on at 1:30 I saw no reason to get up in the morning, but now its on at 11:30, so sometimes I wake up to watch it. A Bic pen. What youre supposed to have is, say, all Henry Jamess novels and the letters, which is more elegant. If I lived in another country, like a country that was, say, an enemy of the United States, I would be more amused than I am. On the other hand, in the last few weeks, a couple of times I had dinner with people where I was the only American at the table, and I was yelled at for Donald Trump, like he was my fault. Who hasnt typed for me in a long time? I could probably get a secretary for what I spend getting my friends to type for me. No effect? And a piano player is sitting there as well. Without these tourists, New York would be fantastic. I rolled my own cigarettes. I also cleaned peoples houses, specializing in Venetian blinds. I was caught all the time. Then I switched to Vantage. Initially, she covered "Best of the Worst Movies," but later changed the name of her column to "I Cover the . 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