Great! I remember going home, my wife picked me up, I went home, and I just laid on the couch and looked at her. TRR reached out to Visconti numerous times for comment about his partnership with MacDonald and his provocative social media posts, but Visconti did not respond. But like I said, Hes really working hard to rewrite history. And he says he refuses to read it and says hes not going to mislead the congregation. The pastor of the largest church in Minnesota (around 23,000 average . Plus, the school offers more than 60 majors, great leadership opportunities and strong financial aid. Hes a large imposing man. And at this point, the letters, what had happened with the letters? And they are even beloved by God. I mean, I got exonerated rather quickly. Ed Stetzer was given a car by James MacDonald, along with a bunch of cash and other things that Roys documents in her reporting. Well, maybe it had approval by the executive elders, maybe it had approval by Fred Adams, who was the CFO at the time. I felt physically sick reading the letter. Tragically . He would probably be wildly successful. I know its your hope too, Dan, and I just want to thank you. And he opened the meeting, looking at me and said, I know what youre going to do, and the church is going to implode or blow up, and its going to be on you. But over there, you know, I, you know, six, seven people who had read the letters, probably more than that by the time, and we talked about what was in the letters. He has always been a total its all about me. Well, again, joining me today is Dan George, a former elder at Harvest, and one of only two former elders whos apologized to me personally, for some of the nasty things that were said about me when I was reporting on the church and James McDonald. For more information on Marquardt Buick go to buyacar123.com. I see that as just simply implicating a larger group and a conspiracy to use church money for stuff that was never intended. And and that would be my word to James McDonald. Of it could be that shes been taken in by him. And it became so obvious to be like that that was what it was. There is a solution for our sin in Scripture. And this is when everything really started happening. There was a push for him to be able to resign, and to negotiate on several points that we now know what have you know, let him walk away with millions of dollars. And what happened in all the backroom meetings, private conversations, and phone calls leading up to that fateful event? MacDonald adds, Of the more than 4000 Change Partners once faithfully supporting our efforts monthly, there are now about 150the remnant from which we seek to rebuild. He then invites people to send him gifts. 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Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. And then he apologized. And scripture is really clear that its got to be, you know, two or three witnesses. Please dont read something into a story thats not there. I mean, just stuff that you just cant even fathom comes from a man who supposedly is a man of God, a preacher of the gospel. Why is that? And again, Im going from memory, but also from what Ron Duitsman recently said. She wrote about, you alluded to it, she wrote about the end of this Risen for the Nations tour when they were in Haiti. ARC is one of the largest church planting organizations in North America. And so she sent me a letter before it went to the elder board. He was the senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel megachurch in Rolling Meadows, Illinois, United States [1] [2] and was the host for the church's former broadcast ministry, Walk in the Word . Thank you for loving the Church and the Lord God Almighty, to take the hard but righteous way rather than the hard way. Hear the dramatic and sovereignly orchestrated story of how MacDonalds actions finally came to light at Harvest. Like wow! We brought up several things from the letters with James McDonald that night, and he was just dismissing everything we brought up. And had those letters not reach the board, its hard to say where James McDonald would be today. So this is going to be a fascinating podcast. And I know it was a battle. Rick, Donald actually had talked to me after the meeting and said, how much that meant to James. In 2018, Roys' journalism exposed the now-former senior pastor of Harvest Bible Chapel (HBC) James MacDonald for his aggressive leadership style and abuse of the church's finances. I stepped into a conference room. Harvest Insider Tells What Really Happened with James MacDonald. There were times in the meeting where, you know, I didnt even know what gaslighting was. I need to repent. But I think it was And anyway, hes fired. Id read through everything and all the letters. So the topic of you know, among other things, the topic of the meeting that night on the agenda was to go through the letters to look at the charges and to walk through it and decide, does he meet the qualifications of an elder? But according. I acknowledge my sin to you. And at the end of the night, we looked around the room, we had talked through it. Ill tell you on that Saturday, there were, we took a break, because it was a long meeting. Because I believe in the church. Dan and his wife, Kim, subsequently left Harvest, but remain committed to the integrity of the Church and caring for those who have been hurt in the Church. If hes fired, and its in the church is very clear on him being fired and disqualified for ministry. And when I look back at it, thats what I think. It was a four hour meeting. I appreciate elders (Hebrews 13:17). I dont know how many people had heard of it. And that was actually the night we went, we went into the I think we went to one oclock in the morning and actually walked through whether James McDonald was qualified as an elder. Mine havent offered any blessings, but at least they havent eaten my extremities while I sleep. And then if you could, please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. And I just felt this incredible weight. Think of the godly ones youve known and thank God for them. Its phrased to make you feel morally superior. But as, as these excerpts of James speaking as, as James did, to so many people knew that, that this was the way he really, really spoke and who he really was. That way youll never miss an episode. Were just talking a minute ago, you know, the emotion and the weight and the relief and the sadness, and all those things are true. Longtime leader of the Chicago-area megachurch Harvest Bible Chapel James MacDonald has been ousted as senior pastor in light of unsavory remarks he made on a hot mic that were aired on local media Tuesday. Because your article seemed to conflate all these things. On February 13, the elders announced James MacDonald had been fired . Who Will Pay for the SBCs Abuse Reforms Over the Long Term? "I was sitting in the back seat. And that was the day that Mancow Muller aired these excerpts. You could tell where it was headed probably. But I think my kat has watched too much Kenneth Copeland. So at the end of the night, no one got the letters. At the end of that weekend, before James MacDonald got fired in February 2019. So so sorry for anyone who has had to face the James MacDonald storm. And I did it. I really am so very sick of these self-righteous, insensitive, insulting church leaders who think they are the only ones who have a hardwire connection to God preaching on the subject of wives submit to your husbands while they leave out the husbands responsibility to love their wives as Christ loved the church. She first came to my attention with James MacDonald, then with Ravi Zacharias, and now John McArthur plus one of his side-kicks is in her cross-hairs. And and its sad to me other than when they did finally, the former elders apologize for the lawsuit that was brought against me. My husband and I pray that anyone who has been hurt or used by Im can heal. Julie Roys October 8, 2020. But before I dive into my interview with Dan, I just want to take a minute to thank the sponsors of the Roys report, Judson University and Marquardt of Barrington. Later that night, or first thing you know, into the wee hours of the next morning, the communication was out to the people of Harvest, and it was over. Dan currently is an executive and leadership coach and the founder of Front Seat Leadership. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Good to be here. The G in freemasonry stands for generation. Why would anyone who follows Jesus Christ care what Generation Church thinks about anything? And so we had a long meeting that Saturday to talk about what we were going to do. I shouldnt be doing this. And if I would, you know, post some sort of statement. Had they reached all the elders at this point? But its also an important podcast, because as you may know, James McDonald is aggressively trying to rewrite history and relaunch his ministry. Yet he notes that only a small number of former listeners responded positively. Others, who stumbled by the public deception sent many hateful words.. You can unconditionally love someone. I remember saying to the larger board, Guys, it is the grace of God that we have these letters. it's time for the cult of personality of James MacDonald at Harvest chapter to close and the actual Bible to be opened . If you went back to when the Elephants Debt was launched, I think this is telling. In a recent Instagram story, Visconti, pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, claimed abuse is not a biblical justification for divorce. And in an Instagram post on November 21 that received 5,621 likes Visconti wrote: A weak woman with a strong husband will become a strong woman. Five of the six have been published. . And I remember being in the meeting thinking, I cant believe were arguing about this. Dan resigned from the Harvest elder board in March 2019, calling for reform. So he was fired. I payed for you and James. pretty rotten.. Nearly 30 pages, innumerable charges between all those people, Julie, they served on the staff of Harvest Bible Chapel for somewhere between 40 and 50 years collectively. However, MacDonald texted me an invitation to appear with him in a public forum to answer for the many many lies Ive reportedly written about him. Six people who I doubt wherever actually all in the same room. Still. No One Knows. But to tell people they have to stay in a situation of violence, trauma and harm, or return to it, this is not a core tenet of Christianity. So its critically important that the truth be told. Following allegations of years-long bullying and financial misconduct, the lead pastor and executive team of an Association of Related Churches (ARC) megachurch, Everyone was laughing and goading, like it was a jokeuntil it wasnt. Your tax-deductible gift helps our journalists report the truth and hold Christian leaders and organizations accountable. Hes not qualified. So grateful to be healthy and happy in the Lord to where I can finally wade into the filth from JuLIE Roys. Youre, youre characterizing it correctly. Any update on the James MacDonald vs Harvest debacle? Jesus died on the cross for to take the weight of our sin so that we could be released from it. 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