Yes, but its one thing to pray for the blessing of another; its another thing to declare they are blessed by God (like Eph 1:3 in Christ.), First time reader here! A commentator I recently read noted that discernment comes from a word meaning the space between. (NLT) Other Benedictions in the Bible In the Old Testament, benedictions were ceremonial pronouncements of God's favor or blessing on the congregation administered during worship gatherings. T-shirts, posters, stickers, home decor, and more, designed and sold by independent artists around the world. 8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. They are hurting and dont need a theological band-aide. So, how does God love His enemies? We actually read in many places that he is against even his own people when they are sinning. I havent copyrighted anything. The song also encourages listeners to speak blessings over others, just as the priestly blessing in the Bible does. 3 Let love and faithfulness never leave you; bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart. However, they could also be lead astray, thinking that God is with, within, and for them without repentance or faith. And keep you Id love to hear what Scripture backs this up as a worship song (not the lyrics being from the Bible, but this actually being a worship song). it gave me a swift kick in the pants that forced me to re-examine my position on repetition and its relation to Berean Test reviews. and I hope we can rejoined in heaven to meet pray for me you are also in my prayers ! We usually favor people who also favor us. I really struggle with this song, which is why Im here. Gods favor doesnt come from anything humans do. And let the beauty of the LORD our God be on us: and establish you the work of our hands on us; yes, the work of our hands establish you it. He is for you, He is for you. [May] the Lord bless you and keep you, Make His face shine upon you And be gracious to you May His presence go before you, And behind you, and beside you In your weeping and your rejoicing, He is with you May His favor be upon [our nation], for a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children. So Joseph found favor in his sight, Genesis 39:3-4 You have granted me life and favor, and Your care has preserved my spirit. The epistle of 1 Peter is addressed to "pilgrims" ( 1 Peter 1:1 )Christians who had been called out of the world to be set apart as God's special . And a thousand generations. Guessing from the ads, its voluntary work. Especially since there is no stated noun that precedes make. Transitional (these songs transition from praise to worship or from worship to praise and usually have some elements of a typical praise/and or worship song) and 4. We delight in him. "And if you faithfully obey the voice of the Lord your God, being careful to do all his commandments that I command you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth. This song is a beautiful, simultaneous pronouncement of blessing over the corporate church and the individual believer. Similarly, repeating May His favor be upon you and a thousand generations, and your family and your children, and their children, and their children certainly conveys a beautiful blessing any person should feel blessed to hear, let alone to hear it repeated and be able to meditate on the idea and His inscrutable love for us! Thank you also for what you wrote in the comments about the church being new Israel, with all the scripture references. It inspires unity and adds another language to break the repetition. Can you talk to the thought process behind those categories, how they came about, relevant biblical examples, etc? I grew up in and then served churches with three hymns (reduced to only two so a childrent sermon could be fit in the requisite 60 minutes) and a sermon with three points and a poem. Just explaining my context. Psalm 31:16 Make thy face to shine upon thy servant: save me for thy mercies' sake. For example, God remembered Noah, then made the water recede. Believing is at the heart of receiving the promises of God. I would say The blessing falls under the 4th category. But true worship comes from people who are deeply emotional and who love deep and sound doctrine. This blessing always seems to come straight from the mouth of God, when I hear it. Far more and better than we can in our human frailty. Sang for my city and our country, especially for those who have yet to know the Lord and experience the blessing of life with Him. It took everything that I read in the Bible about Gods love for me and wrapped it into the biggest blessing God can give us. Chris Brown) - Mercy, https://www.christianity.com/wiki/god/what-does-it-mean-in-the-bible-that-god-remembered.html, https://www.thebereantest.com/criteria-for-evaluating-christian-music, https://www.stubhub.com/elevation-worship-tickets/performer/100273774/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ZjB0UOzOg&list=WL&index=9&t=0s, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Patrick%27s_Breastplate, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ji5mwWVHMk, https://www.gotquestions.org/rain-just-unjust.html, Elevation Worship (Feat. Yes, make our efforts successful! I took this song as it was presented..at this particular phase of my life, God put His beautiful promises there (in form of song) for me to hear, hide in my heart and to ponder as needed. I have no children, no grandchildren. We deserve Gods wrath, and it is only by the blood of Jesus we dont have it. The Cambridge Bible states vers 16 18 very clear Jer_23:16-18. Jim Bomar: I agree with Stephan Briton, I have teach children & youth for 40 year and have always believed that the message God spoke to Jerusalem in Isaiah 28 means there is some lessons about him that can only be learned through the patient prodding of repetition. Even the word, blessing, may be somewhat misunderstood. . I heard that the pastor of Elevation church (Steven Furtick) felt that God was speaking this blessing over his church and wanted his congregation to receive it, so he sat down in a room with Kari Jobe and Cody Carnes and wrote this song for his church. I hope its supporting you well for your time and if not Im sure God will fix the tab on the other side . (e.g. Interesting technical review. Enough to send His Son to us & to send His Spirit to live in us! Im trying to get my head around the way this song is being used. Psalm 30:5 (NIV) "For his anger lasts only a moment, but his favor lasts a lifetime; weeping may stay for the night, but rejoicing comes in the morning.". Let's peek into the the definition of humble. God makes no distinction between the evil and the righteous in this instanceHe gives good gifts to both of them. I just feel wary of painting God as this benefactor when people could be setting their faces again God with their unrepentant sin. While I enjoy thos song, it is an example of where the church is. May the favor of the Lord our God rest on us; establish the work of our hands for us yes, establish the work of our hands. But in many ways, we are blessed, for a purpose of being a blessing. [16] Thus saith the LORD of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the LORD. Since the lyrics of this song are direct quotes from scripture, and scripture is infallible, I dont believe this principle can apply, even if an unbeliever is confused. Mantras and meditations become means of healing and recovery what is better to hear on repeat, that you are a worthless, hopeless piece of garbage, or that in all things God is for you, with you, and within you? I mean those who have had deaths in their families (Ive recently lost both my children,) those who have lost jobs, those in family crisis or drug addiction. Its the heart of worship that we are repeating back to God His promises He made to us. At my church we divide Christian songs into 4 categories. Since its a blessing, and blessings are given at the end of the service, my thought is that a church service could potentially end with this song. IF (big if) the song is being sung AS worship THEN it is actually idolatry, because it is worship of the congregation, the blessing, your children, and their children and their children. Prayer For God's Favor Dear Jesus Christ, As I come to you in prayer, I ask that you might look upon me with favor. He is with you, He is with you. Praise is all that is on my mind during this. Psalm 68:28 Thy God hath commanded thy strength: strengthen, O God, that which thou hast wrought for us. "These are the words of the . It appears to be an encouraging word set to music. Moved me to tears and prayer. God has promised you favor. Rather, it seems like a secret agenda of hoping Hell give us what we want (hindering on the prosperity gospel here). And their children, and their children, May His presence go before you I agree this is a beautiful song and brings me to tears every time I listen to it. One thing I never understood, Tobi, is why would we need to remind God of his promise to Abraham and his lineage. Welcome to The Berean Test and thank you for your comment! NLT Life Application Large-Print Study Bible, Third Edition--hardcover, red letter, NLT Premium Gift Bible--soft leather-look, teal, NLT Large-Print Premium Value Thinline Bible, Filament Enabled Edition--soft leather-look, pink, NLT Personal-Size Giant-Print Bible, Filament Enabled Edition--soft leather-look, aurora cranberry, NLT Life Application Study Bible, Third Edition--hardcover, red letter. Their hearts are far from God (Isaiah 29:13, Ezekiel 33:31, and Matthew 15:79). Artists work hard to produce music and lyrics. . I have watched several versions and my favorite is the one from New Zealand/Aotearoa, which really fills me with God spirit and with a great homesickness for New Zealand, which is one of three countries that I call home. I fill the love (aroha) and the caring (manaakitanga) of all those singing the Blessing. I updated it, raising the songs overall score from 8.5/10 to 9.5/10. How many times did God say fear not, and yet we are fearful of so much in this world. I agree that it can help us learn and reinforce concepts; However, it can also become hypnotic. I am not a skilled songwriter or gifted musician, but I heard this worship song for the first time as I was driving across the state to a wedding shower for my eldest sons fianc. In the modern era, the idea has crept into the church that everything we do has to be seeker oriented. May his favor be upon you and a thousand generations. Again, thanks for posting the passages these songs are from! Post-Bridge Three times, with the same phrase repeating six times on the first iteration and eight times on the next two. The chastisement might be painful but only "for a moment" but God's "favor is for a lifetime" and into eternal life. Jesus taught about the blessings we could experiencepersecution and hardshipwhen we follow Him. Psalm 80:3,7 Turn us again, O God, and cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved. Isnt He God? or 2) that we should *not be analyzing the music presented to the church / used by Christians at all, because that can *only be done in a way that is judgmental/hypocritical/unrighteous/etcBasically, who are we to question how someone else worships God. May His favor be upon you And a thousand generations And your family and your children And their children, and their children May His presence go before you And behind you, and beside you All around you, and within you He is with you, He is with you In the morning, in the evening In your coming, and your going In your weeping, and rejoicing So Im all for praying this over the UK as the lip suggests and the rest of the world too! Heres the essence of my concern about the message, copied from my plea to the producers: in its present form the message quite unintentionally I am sure dangerously misleads the lost as to their spiritual standing before a holy God by insisting and repeating, without qualification, He is for you., Of course Godloves all people (Psalm 145:9), Jesus came to save sinners, not condemn, we all agree on that, but is his message to lost sinners one of affirmation only?. The repetition of the phrase He is for you has caused me to understand, with new clarity, what i thought i knew. Make His face shine u. F#sus. 2) I also disagree with the statement that God is against THEM (emphasis mine.) And the LORD will guide you continually and satisfy your desire in scorched places and make your bones strong; and you shall be like a watered garden, like a spring of water . Everything has to be logical. Take a different song: Bless the Lord oh my soul worship His holy name. That song IS a worship song, because it is directed at God. In your coming, and your going Key Bible Verses: Isaiah 41:10, NIV So do not fear, for I am with you; do not be dismayed, for I am your God. But then I listened to the song again, and I sang along, in a sense praying the blessing over my family (perhaps encouraged by the reminder of His favor to a thousand a generations of those who love Him). And that there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ! All rights reserved. I didnt read all the comments, so I apologize if Im repeating what someone else already said. Can we honestly sing that God is for people, when we dont know where they are in repentance with Him? Psalm 50:2 Out of Zion, the perfection of beauty, God hath shined. But, a lot of people (including myself) have concerns about how songs might lead unbelievers in the wrong direction. Yes, when artists play their music, there is often a charge to hear them play. I havent seen much else. Psalms Quotes. Thanks, Don Line upon line, precept upon precept. Even if the Gospel is preached with a heart of greed, trickery, and deceit, if the Gospel is preached, then I rejoice. Personally, my biggest issue with this song is that they turned a 2 minute song into a 12 minute song, and I feel like Im getting tired of getting blessed by the time its over..(kind of like this comment, lol). Amen. Vince, Im sorry, I dont mean to go on and rant or even sound angry but the gospel of greed is a real problem here in the USA and apparently Im not sure what can be done about it you asked me how far my argument goes I think it started and ended here things like this bother me and because Jesus didnt charge me a dime when he loved and saved instead he paid the price..but anyway this turning into word salad and I know you got better things to do so let me end with this.. You quoted Romans 13, I agree, you are 100 percent right!! A balance between the two is something for which we must strive. I admit that my constant criticism over repetition is subjective (although any opinion will be subjective) and it affects the scoring. Fails. LOOK, FOR ARGUMENTS SAKE, LET US TOTALLY ACCEPT THERE IS NOTHING REALY WRONG WITH THE WORDS OR EVEN REPITITION OF THIS SONG BUT .. Numbers 6:24-26 - NLT The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face to shine upon you, and be gracious to you; the Lord lift up his countenance upon you, and give you peace. That, essentially, you are valuable to and will be cared for by God. It is unfortunate to consider but I would venture to guess that a large majority of the songs audience falsely believe the blessings promised by this song are material or emotional blessings simply because that is the current focus of society and the most popular reason many seek God. 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